A lot of people(both secular and theistic) are misunderstanding this phrase. They act like its the right to be sheltered from everyone else’s religions or an attempt to banish all religions.
It is not, and theists need freedom from religion too. Its not solely for secular or irreligious individuals.
Freedom from religion is like the other side of the coin freedom of religion. You simply cant have freedom OF religion without freedom FROM religion.
A christian can’t be a christian if they aren’t free from being a pagan.
A pagan can’t be a pagan with out being free from satanism.
You can not be free to your specific beliefs if you aren’t free from other peoples specific beliefs.
How can you be an atheist if your forced to be a christian?
How can you be Islamic if your forced to be Jewish?
So to the theists who claim its “freedom of religion not freedom from religion” its time for you to realize that they are one and the same.
And to the atheists who parade “freedom from religion” like a strictly atheistic idea/right its time you realize that freedom from religion protects everyone.
Freedom from and of religion is a right for all.
The Atheist Atrocities Fallacy – Hitler, Stalin & Pol Pot:
Religious apologists, particularly those of the Christian variety, are big fans of what I have dubbed, the atheist atrocities fallacy. Christians commonly employ this fallacy to shield their egos from the harsh reality of the brutality of their own religion, by utilizing a most absurd form of the tu quoque (“you too”) fallacy, mingled with numerous other logical fallacies and historical inaccuracies. Despite the fact that the atheist atrocities fallacy has already been thoroughly exposed by Hitchens and other great thinkers, it continues to circulate amongst the desperate believers of a religion in its death throes. Should an atheist present a believer with the crimes committed by the Holy See of the Inquisition(s), the Crusaders and other faith-wielding misanthropes, they will often hear the reply; “Well, what about Stalin, Pol Pot and Hitler? They were atheists, and they killed millions!”
Keep reading at the link.
Satanic Leader Calls Upon Christian America to Face Their Contribution to Racist Right
“…nothing could be more antithetical to Modern non-theistic Satanism than racist ideologies. We embrace a large diversity of individuals from a wide spectrum of political and cultural backgrounds, but we’re all unified by our respect for individual rights and pluralism. It is axiomatic within Satanism that individuals must be judged for their own actions and for their own merits. To unfavorably relegate individuals into arbitrary categories, or to take credit for the achievements of another based upon a shared classification, is to defy the very foundational principles of our ethics. We simply have no place for simple-minded Supremacist, Nationalist ideologues and, what’s more, it’s impossible to interpret our tenets otherwise. ”
The assumptions are really bothering me. I get it, you believe in a god(or multiple) and that is fine, but please stop assuming everyone else does too.
When you see a post about someone struggling and you don’t know their religion please try to refrain from religious comments. I get that you’re just trying to be kind, and I’m not trying to attack you for it, but its not helpful to someone who isn’t religious.
Why do you say “God is on your side” instead of “you’ll get through this”?
Why do you say “God will keep you strong” instead of “You are strong and you’ll be okay”?
Even if you believe that a god is the one doing it for them its just respectful to leave your religion out of comfort that is for them (Unless you know that they too share similar beliefs, that is totally different).
This isn’t just for atheists, its for atheists, agnostics, deists, polytheists, and anyone else who doesn’t share similar beliefs.
It’s about respecting other people.
Support doesn’t have to be theistic–
On the same note, not all theists hate/actively fight atheists ✌
For those of you who believe that all sin is equal I wonder, if you were put into a position where you either had to harm another or lie, which do you do?
How do you know which is right?
Lying is a sin, but so is doing harm upon another human…
And if all sins are equal does it truly matter which you do?
*disclaimer: as always this is NOT an attempt to belittle or attack Christians it is pure curioisity*
My support for separation of church and state is not just for the atheists, agnostics, humanists, or any of the “nones” (as were so kindly refered to as).
I don’t just fight specific religions being taught as truth in schools for only myself or just for the people(though Im sure it helps my drive), I also do it for people of other religions.
I fight for religious freedom in schools, government, and anything that is not personal/private for everyone.
So no one is forced to do the prayers of a religion they don’t follow.
So no one is forced to follow the rules of a religion they don’t follow.
So no one is discriminated against or wrongly treated based on the beliefs of a religion they have nothing to do with.
I tell you one thing, Christians aren’t wrong when they say Christianity is their right. But a Jews right is to be Jewish. An atheists right is to be atheist.
Feedom of religion is for everyone, I dont know why so many theists fight it.
Claiming it as one is extremely UN-american.
First and foremost we do NOT have a national religion.
Our constitution not only leaves religion out, but directly states that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”
ITS LITERALLY THE FIRST LINE OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
But if that isn’t enough to convince you that America is founded on religious freedom and not Christianity then why don’t we go back even before the constitution. Yes, we’re going to go further back than 1789 – more than 100 years earlier.
1620, the Mayflower, Pilgrims, among the first to colonize here- they came to “the new world” on the Mayflower to practice religious freedom. They were followed a decade later(1630) by the Puritans who also came to be free from religious persecution.
The United States is not a Christian nation and it certainly was not founded on Christianity- It was founded by religious freedom, and it is that freedom that ALLOWS You to be Christians, it allows me to be an atheist, and it allows everyone else to believe whatever they believe. To claim otherwise is NOT american, it completely undermines everything we stand for.
We are a free nation.
I am 100% serious with this question, I have never personally read the bible all the way through, so I really don’t know.
Can someone provide me with a passage where god condemns or even implies that pedophilia is wrong?
I’m not asking to make some kind of point about the bible, but whenever I discuss morality with theists I almost always get asked how I know pedophilia is wrong without some great all knowing morality– so I’m starting to wonder how you know its wrong?
(once again, I’m not attacking or trying to start an argument, I just want to know if its even referenced in scripture)