Category: misogyny

Thanks to the heroic work of Catherine Corless…

Thanks to the heroic work of Catherine Corless, here are the names of the seven hundred and ninety-six children who died in a Tuam mother and baby home run by the Catholic Church in collusion with the government in Ireland, and whose bodies were thrown into a septic tank at the site pictured above. 

This was one mother and baby home. There is evidence to suggest that we can expect similar results from the many other Irish mother and baby homes (and this is without talking about Magdalene Laundries).

I’m not putting any of this under a Read More link. I’m just not.

1925

Patrick Derrane 5 months
Mary Blake 4 months
Matthew Griffin 3 months
Mary Kelly 6 months
Peter Lally 11 months
Julia Hynes 1 year
James Murray 1 month

1926

Joseph McWilliam 6 months
John Mullen 3 months
Mary Wade 3 years
Maud McTigue 6 years
Bernard Lynch 3 years
Martin Shaughnessy 18 months
Bridget Glynn 1 year
Margaret Glynn 1 year
Patrick Gorham 21 months
Patrick O’Connell 1 year
John Carty 21 months
Madeline Bernard 2 years
Maureen Kenny 8 years
Kathleen Donohue 1 year
Thomas Donelan 2 years
Mary Quilan 2 years
Mary King 9 months
Mary Warde 21 months
George Coyne 2 years
Julia Cummins 18 months
Barbara Fola/ Wallace 9 months
Pauline Carter 11 months
Mary Walsh 1 year
Annie Stankard 10 months
John Connelly 9 months
Anthony Cooke 1 month
Michael Casey 3 years
Annie McCarron 2 months
Patricia Dunne 2 months
John Carty 3 months
Peter McNamara 7 weeks
Mary Shaughnessy 4 months
Joseph Coen 5 months
Mary Murphy 2 months
Patrick Kelly 2 months
Martin Rabbitte 6 weeks
Kathleen Quinn 7 months
Patrick Halpin 2 months
Martin McGuinness 6 months

1927

Mary Kate Connell 3 months
Patrick Raftery 7 months
Patrick Paterson 5 months
James Murray 1 month
Colman O’ Loughlin 5 months
Agnes Canavan 18 months
Christina Lynch 15 months
Mary O’Loughlin 6 months
Annie O’ Connor 15 months
John Greally 11 months
Joseph Fenigan 4 years
Mary Connolly 2 months
James Muldoon 4 months
Joseph Madden 3 months
Mary Devaney 18 months

1928

Michael Gannon 6 months
Bridget Cunningham 2 months
Margaret Conneely 18 months
Patrick Warren 8 months
James Mulryan 1 month
Mary Kate Fahey 3 years
Mary Mahon 1 month
Martin Flanagan 1 month
Mary Forde 4 months
Patrick Hannon 20 months
Michael Donellan 6 months
Joseph Ward 7 months
Walter Jordan 3 years
Mary Mullins 1 month

1929

Peter Christian 7 months
Mary Cunningham 5 months
James Ryan 9 months
Patrick O’Donnell 9 months
Mary Monaghan 4 years
Patrick O’Malley 1 year
Philomena Healy 11 months
Michael Ryan 1 year
Patrick Curran 6 months
Patrick Fahy 2 months
Laurence Molloy 5 months
Patrick Lynskey 6 months
Vincent Nally 21 months
Mary Grady 18 months
Martin Gould 21 months
Patrick Kelly 2 months

1930

Bridget Quinn 1 year
William Reilly 9 months
George Lestrange 7 months
Christy Walshe 15 months
Margaret Mary Gagen 1 year
Patrick Moran 4 months
Celia Healy 5months
James Quinn 4 years
Bridget Walsh 15months

1931

Patrick Shiels 4 months
Mary Teresa Drury 1 year
Peter O’Brien 18 months
Peter Malone 18 months
Carmel Moylan 8 months
Mary Burke 10 months
Mary Josephine Garvey 5 months
Mary Warde 10 months
Catherine Howley 9 months
Michael Pat McKenna 3 months
Richard Raftery 3 months

1932

Margaret Doorhy 8 months
Patrick Leonard 9 months
Mary Coyne 1 year
Mary Kate Walsh 2 years
Christina Burke 1 year
Mary Margaret Jordan 18 months
John Joseph McCann 8 months
Teresa McMullan 1 year
George Gavin 1 year
Joseph O’Boyle 2 months
Peter Nash 1 year
Bridget Galvin 3 months
Margaret Niland 3 years
Christina Quinn 3 months
Kathleen Cloran 9 years
Annie Sullivan 8 months
Patricia Judge 1 year
Mary Birmingham 9 months
Laurence Hill 11 months
Brendan Patrick Pender 1 month
Kate Fitzmaurice 4 months
Baby Mulkerrins 5 days
Angela Madden 3 months
Mary McDonagh 1 year

1933

Mary C Shaughnessy 1 month
Mary Moloney 11 months
Patrick Joseph Brennan 1 months
Anthony O’Toole 2 months
Mary Cloherty 9days
Joseph Fahy 10 months
Mary Finola Cunniffe 6 months
Martin Cassidy 5 months
Francis Walsh 3 months
Mary Garvey 4 months
Kathleen Gilchrist 8 months
Mary Kate Walsh 1 months
Eileen Fallon 18 months
Harry Leonard 3 years
Mary Kate Guilfoyle 3 months
John Callinan 3 months
John Kilmartin 2 months
Julia Shaughnessy 3 months
Patrick Prendergast 6 months
Bridgid Holland 2 months
Bridgid Moran 15 months
Margaret Mary Fahy 15 months
Bridgid Ryan 9 months
Mary Brennan 4 months
Mary Conole 1 months
John Flattery 2 years
Margaret Donohue 10 months
Joseph Dunn 3 years
Owen Lenane 2 months
Josephine Steed 3 months
Mary Meeneghan 3 months
James McIntyre 4 months

1934

John Joseph Murphy 4 months
Margaret Mary O’Gara 2 months
Eileen Butler 2 months
Thomas Molloy 2 months
James Joseph Bodkin 6 months
John Kelly 2 months
Mary Walshe 6 months
Mary Jo Colohan 4 months
Florence Conneely 7 months
Norah McCann 1 months
Mary Kelly 9 months
Rose O’Dowd 6 months
Mary Egan 4 months
Michael Concannon 4 months
Paul Joyce 10 months
Mary Christina Kennedy 4 months
Bridget Finnegan 2 months
Mary Flaherty 3 months
Thomas McDonagh 4 months
Joseph Hoey 1 year
Sheila Tuohy 9 years
Teresa Cunniffe 3 months
Joseph Clohessy 2 months
Mary Kiely 4 months
Thomas Cloran 6 months
Mary Burke 3 months
Mary Marg Flaherty 4 months
John Keane 17 days
Luke Ward 15 months
Mary O’Reilly 5 months

1935

Ellen Mountgomery 18 months
Mary Elizabeth Lydon 4 months
Brigid Madden 1 month
Mary Margaret Murphy 4 months
Mary Nealon 7 months
Stephen Linnane 4 months
Josephine Walsh 1 years
Kate Cunningham 2 months
Mary Bernadet Hibbett 1 month
Thomas Linnane 4 months
Patrick Lane 3 months
Mary Anne Conway 2 months
James Kane 8 months
Christopher Leech 3 months
Elizabeth Ann McCann 5 months
Margaret Mary Coen 2 months
Michael Linnane 15months
Bridget Glenane 5 weeks

1936

John O’Toole 7 months
John Creshal 4 months
Mary Teresa Egan 3 months
Michael Boyle 3 months
Anthony Mannion 6 weeks
Donald Dowd 5 months
Peter Ridge 4 months
Eileen Collins 2 months
Mary Brennan 2 months
James Fahy 5 months
Mary Bridget Larkin 8 months
Margaret Scanlon 3 years
Brian O’Malley 4 months
Michael Madden 6 months

1937

Mary Kate Cahill 2 weeks
Mary Margaret Lydon 3 months
Festus Sullivan 1 month
Annie Curley 3 weeks
Nuala Lydon 5 months
Bridget Collins 5 weeks
Patrick Joseph Coleman 1 month
Joseph Hannon 6 weeks
Henry Monaghan 3 weeks
Michael Joseph Shiels 7 weeks
Martin Sheridan 5 weeks
John Patrick Loftus 10 months
Patrick Joseph Murphy 3 months
Catherine McHugh 4 months
Mary Patricia Toher 4 months
Mary Kate Sheridan 4 months
Mary Flaherty 19 months
Mary Anne Walsh 14 months
Eileen Quinn 2 years
Patrick Burke 9 months
Margaret Holland 2 days
Joseph Langan 6 months
Sabina Pauline O’Grady 6 months
Patrick Qualter 3 years
Mary King 5 months
Eileen Conry 1 year

1938

Mary Nee 4 months
Martin Andrew Larkin 14 months
Mary Keane 3 weeks
Kathleen V Cuffe 6 months
Margaret Linnane 4 months
Teresa Heneghan 3 months
John Neary 7 months
Patrick Madden 4 months
Mary Cafferty 2 months
Mary Kate Keane 3 months
Patrick Hynes 3 weeks
Annie Solan 2 months
Charles Lydon 9 months
Margaret Mullins 7 months
Mary Mulligan 2 months
Anthony Lally 5 months
Joseph Spelman 6 weeks
Annie Begley 3 months
Vincent Egan 1 week
Nora Murphy 5 months
Patrick Garvey 6 months
Patricia Burke 4 months
Winifred Barret 2 years
Agnes Marron 3 months
Christopher Kennedy 5 months
Patrick Harrington 1 week

1939

Kathleen Devine 2 years
Vincent Garaghan 1 month
Ellen Gibbons 6 months
Michael McGrath 4 months
Edward Fraser 3 months
Bridget Lally 1 year
Patrick McLoughlin 5 months
Martin Healy 4 months
Nora Duffy 3 months
Margaret Higgins 1 week
Patrick Egan 6 months
Vincent Farragher 11 months
Patrick Joseph Jordan 3 months
Michael Hanley 1 month
Catherine Gilmore 3 months
Baby Carney 1 day
Annie Coyne 3 months
Helena Cosgrave 5 months
Thomas Walsh 2 months
Baby Walsh 1 day
Kathleen Hession 4 months
Brigid Hurley 11 months
Ellen Beegan 2 months
Mary Keogh 1 year
Bridget Burke 3 months

1940

Martin Reilly 9 months
Martin Hughes 11 months
Mary Connolly 1 month
Mary Kate Ruane 1 month
Joseph Mulchrone 3 months
Michael Williams 14 months
Martin Moran 7 weeks
Josephine Mahony 2 months
James Henry 5 weeks
Bridget Staunton 5 months
John Creaven 2 weeks
Peter Lydon 6 weeks
Patrick Joseph Ruane 4 months
Michael Quinn 8 months
Julia Coen 1 week
Annie McAndrew 5 months
John Walsh 3 months
Patrick Flaherty 6 months
Bernadette Purcell 2 years
Joseph Macklin 1 day
Thomas Duffy 2 days
Elizabeth Fahy 4 months
James Kelly 2 months
Nora Gallagher 4 months
Kathleen Cannon 4 months
Winifred Tighe 8 months
Christopher Williams 1 year
Joseph Lynch 1 year
Andrew McHugh 15 months
William Glennan 18 months
Michael J Kelly 5 months
Patrick Gallagher 3 months
Michael Gerard Keane 2 months
Ellen Lawless 6 months

1941

Mary Finn 3 months
Martin Timlin 3 months
Mary McLoughlin 1 month
Mary Brennan 5 months
Patrick Dominic Egan 1 month
Nora Thornton 17 months
Anne Joyce 1 year
Catherine Kelly 10 months
Michael Monaghan 8 months
Simon John Hargraves 6 months
Baby Forde 1 day
Joseph Byrne 2 months
Patrick Hegarty 4 months
Patrick Corcoran 1 month
James Leonard 16 days
Jane Gormley 22 days
Anne Ruane 11 days
Patrick Munnelly 3 months
John Lavelle 6 weeks
Patrick Ruane 24 days
Patrick Joseph Quinn 3 months
Joseph Kennelly 15 days
Kathleen Monaghan 3 months
Baby Quinn 2 days
Anthony Roche 4 months
Annie Roughneen 3 weeks
Anne Kate O’Hara 4 months
Patrick Joseph Nevin 3 months
John Joseph Hopkins 3 months
Thomas Gibbons 1 month
Winifred McTigue 7 months
Thomas Joseph Begley 2 months

1942

Kathleen Heneghan 25 days
Elizabeth Murphy 4 months
Nora Farnan 1 month
Teresa Tarpey 1 month
Margaret Carey 11 months
John Garvey 6 weeks
Bridget Goldrick 4 months
Bridget White 3 months
Noel Slattery 1 month
Mary T Connaughton 4 months
Nora McCormack 6 weeks
Joseph Hefferon 5 months
Mary Higgins 9 days
Mary Farrell 21 days
Mary McDonnell 1 month
Geraldine Cunniffe 11 weeks
Michael Mannion 3 months
Bridget McHugh 7 months
Mary McEvady 18 months
Helena Walsh 3 months
William McDoell 2 days
Michael Finn 14 months
Mary Murphy 10 months
Gertrude Glynn 6 months
Joseph Flaherty 7 weeks
Mary O’Malley 4 years
John P Callanan 13 days
Baby McDonnell 1 day
Female McDonnell 1 day
Christopher Burke 9 months
Stephen Connolly 8 months
Mary Atkinson 6 months
Mary Anne Finegan 7 weeks
Francis Richardson 15 months
Michael John Rice 6 months
Nora Carr 4 months
William Walsh 16 months
Vincent Cunnane 14 months
Eileen Coady 10 months
Female Roache 1 day
Male Roache 1 day
Patrick Flannery 2 months
John Dermody 3 months
Margaret Spellman 4 months
Austin Nally 3 months
Margaret Dolan 3 months
Vincent Finn 9 months
Bridget Grogan 6 months

1943

Thomas Patrick Cloran 9 weeks
Catherine Devere 1 month
Mary Josephine Glynn 1 day
Annie Connolly 9 months
Martin Cosgrove 7 weeks
Catherine Cunningham 2 years
Bridget Hardiman 2 months
Mary Grier 5 months
Mary P McCormick 2 months
Brendan Muldoon 5 weeks
Nora Moran 7 months
Joseph Maher 20 days
Teresa Dooley 3 months
Daniel Tully 7 months
Brendan Durkan 1 month
Sheila O’Connor 3 months
Annie Coen 6 months
Patrick J Kennedy 6 days
Thomas Walsh 2 months
Patrick Rice 1 year
Edward McGowan 10 months
Brendan Egan 10 months
Margaret McDonagh 1 month
Annie J Donellan 10 months
Thomas Walsh 14 days
Bridget Quinn 6 months
Mary Mulkerins 5 weeks
Kathleen Parkinson 10 months
Sheila Madeline Flynn 4 months
Patrick Joseph Maloney 2 months
Bridget Carney 7 months
Mary M O’Connor 6 months
Joseph Geraghty 3 months
Annie Coen 10 months
Martin Joseph Feeney 4 months
Anthony Finnegan 3 months
Patrick Coady 3 months
Baby Cunningham 1 day
Annie Fahy 3 months
Baby Byrne 1 day
Patrick Mullaney 18 months
Thomas Connelly 3 months
Mary Larkin 2 months
Margaret Kelly 4 months
Barbara McDonagh 4 months
Mary O’Brien 4 months
Keiran Hennelly 14 months
Annie Folan 4 months
Baby McNamara 1 day
Julia Murphy 3 months

1944

John Rockford 4 months
Vincent Geraghty 1 year
Male O’Brien 2 days
Anthony Deane 2 days
Mary Teresa O’Brien 15 days
John Connelly 3 months
Bridget Murphy 3 months
Patricia Dunne 2 months
Francis Kinahan 1 month
Joseph Sweeney 20 days
Josephine O’Hagan 6 months
Patrick Lavin 1 month
Annie Maria Glynn 13 months
Kate Agnes Moore 2 months
Kevin Kearns 15 months
Thomas Doocey 15 months
William Conneely 8 months
Margaret Spelman 16 months
Mary Kate Cullen 22 months
Kathleen Brown 3 years
Julia Kelly 19 months
Mary Connolly 7 years
Catherine Harrison 2 years
Eileen Forde 21 months
Michael Monaghan 2 years
Mary Frances Lenihan 3 days
Anthony Byrne 6 months
Jarlath Thornton 7 weeks
John Kelly 6 days
Joseph O’Brien 18 months
Anthony Hyland 3 months
Male Murray 1 day
Female Murray 1 day
Joseph F McDonnell 11 days
Mary Walsh 15 months
Baby Glynn 1 day
James Gaughan 14 months
Margaret Walsh 4 months
Mary P Moran 9 days
John Francis Malone 7 days

1945

Michael F Dempsey 7 weeks
Christina M Greally 4 months
Teresa Donnellan 1 month
Rose Anne King 5 weeks
Christopher J Joyce 2 months
James Mannion 8 months
Mary T Sullivan 3 weeks
Patrick Holohan 11 months
Michael Joseph Keane 1 month
Bridget Keaney 2 months
Joseph Flaherty 8 days
Baby Mahady 3 days
James Rogers 10 days
Kathleen F Taylor 9 months
Gerard C Hogan 7 months
Kathleen Corrigan 2 months
Mary Connolly 3 months
Patrick J Farrell 5 months
Patrick Laffey 3 years
Fabian Hynes 8 months
John Joseph Grehan 2 years
Edward O’Malley 3 months
Mary Fleming 6 months
Bridget F McHugh 3 months
Michael Folan 18 months
Oliver Holland 6 months
Ellen Nevin 7 months
Margaret Horan 6 months
Peter Mullarky 4 months
Mary P O’Brien 4 months
Teresa Francis O’Brien 4 months
Mary Kennedy 18 months
Sarah Ann Carroll 4 months
Baby Maye 5 days

1946

Mary Devaney 21 days
Anthony McDonnell 6 months
Vincent Molloy 7 days
John Patrick Lyons 5 months
Gerald Aidan Timlin 3 days
Patrick Costelloe 17 days
John Francis O’Grady 1 month
Bridget Mary Flaherty 12 days
Josephine Finnegan 20 months
Martin McGrath 3 days
Baby Haugh 1 day
James Frayne 1 month
Mary Frances Crealy 14 days
Mary Davey 2 months
Patrick Joseph Hoban 11 days
Angela Dolan 3 months
Mary Lyden 5 months
Bridget Coneely 4 months
Austin O’Toole 4 months
Bernard Laffey 5 months
Mary Ellen Waldron 8 months
Terence O’Boyle 3 months
Mary Frances O’Hara 1 month
Martin Dermott Henry 43 days
Mary Devaney 3 months
Bridget Foley 6 months
Martin Kilkelly 40 days
Theresa Monica Hehir 6 weeks
Patrick A Mitchell 3 months
John Kearney 5 months
John Joseph Kelly 3 months
John Conneely 4 months
Stephen L O’Toole 2 months
Thomas A Buckley 5 weeks
Michael John Gilmore 3 months
Patrick J Monaghan 3 months
Mary Teresa Murray 2 months
Patrick McKeighe 2 months
John Raymond Feeney 3 months
Finbar Noone 2 months
John O’Brien 21 days
Beatrice Keane 5 years
Mary P Veale 5 weeks
Winifred Gillespie 1 year
Anthony Coen 10 weeks
Michael F Sheridan 3 months
Anne Holden 3 months
Martin Joseph O’Brien 7 weeks
Winifred Larkin 1 month

1947

Patrick Thomas Coen 1 month
Mary Bridget Joyce 8 months
Geraldine Collins 13 months
Mary Flaherty 5 days
Vincent Keogh 5 months
John Francis Healy 10 days
Martin J Kennelly 1 month
Patrick Keaveney 2 months
Philomena Flynn 2 months
William Reilly 9 months
Margaret N Concannon 1 year
Patrick J Fitzpatrick 14days
Joseph Cunningham 2 months
Mary J Flaherty 13 months
Kathleen Murray 3 years
John O’Connell 2 years
Alphonsus Hanley 21 months
Bridget P Muldoon 11 months
Patricia C Higgins 5 months
Catherine B Kennedy 2 months
John Desmond Dolan 15 months
Stephen Joynt 2 years
Catherine T Kearns 2 years
Margaret Hurney 2 years
John Patton 2 years
Patrick J Williams 15 months
Nora Hynes 8 months
Anthony Donohue 2 years
Brendan McGreal 1 year
Anthony Cafferky 23 days
Nora Cullinane 18 months
Kathleen Daly 2 years
Nora Conneely 15 months
Mary Teresa Joyce 13 months
Kenneth A Ellesmere 1 day
Mary P Carroll 4 months
Thomas Collins 17 months
Margaret M Moloney 3 months
Josephine Tierney 8 months
Margaret M Deasy 3 months
Martin Francis Bane 3 months
Bridget Agatha Kenny 2 months
Baby Kelly 1 day
Mary Teresa Judge 15 months
Paul Dominick Bennett 3 months
Mary Bridget Giblin 18 months

1948

Kathleen Madden 2 months
Mary P Byrne 8 weeks
Joseph Byrce 4 months
Joseph Byrne 11 months
Kathleen Glynn 4 months
Augustine Jordan 9 months
Michael F Dwyer 18 months
Noel C Murphy 14 months
Margaret McNamee 6 months
Patrick Grealish 6 weeks
Bernadette O’Reilly 7 months
John Joseph Carr 3 weeks
Paul Gardiner 10 months
Simon Thomas Folan 9 weeks
Joseph Ferguson 3 months
Peter Heffernan 4 months
Patrick J Killeen 14 weeks
Stephen Halloran 7 months
Teresa Grealish 5 months
John Keane 4 months
Mary Burke 9 months
Brigid McTigue 3 months
Margaret R Broderick 8 months
Martin Mannion 3 months
1949

Mary Margaret Riddell 8 months
Thomas J Noonan 7 weeks
Peter Casey 10 months
Michael Scully 3 months
Baby Lyons 5 days
Hubert McLoughlin 4 months
Mary M Finnegan 3 months
Nicholas P Morley 3 months
Teresa Bane 6 months
Patrick J Kennedy 5 weeks
Michael Francis Ryan 3 days
John Forde 2 years
Mary P Cunnane 3 months
Margaret P Sheridan 4 months
Patrick Joseph Nevin 3 months
Joseph Nally 5 months
Christopher Burke 3 months
Anne Madden 7 weeks
Bridget T Madden 7 weeks
Thomas Murphy 3 months
Francis Carroll 2 months
Bridget J Linnan 9 months
Josephine Staunton 8 days
Mary Ellen McKeigue 7 weeks

1950

Mary J Mulchrone 3 months
Catherine Higgins 4 years
Catherine Anne Egan 3 months
Thomas McQuaid 4 months
Dermott Muldoo 4 months
Martin Hanley 9 weeks
John Joseph Lally 3 months
Brendan Larkin 5 months
Baby Bell 1 day
Mary J Larkin 7 months
Annie Fleming 9 months
Colm A McNulty 1 month
Walter Flaherty 3 months
Sarah Burke 15 days
Mary Ann Boyle 5 months
John Anthony Murphy 5 months
Joseph A Colohan 4 months
Christopher Begley 18 days

1951

Catherine A Meehan 4 months
Martin McLynskey 6 months
Mary J Crehan 3 months
Mary Ann McDonagh 2 months
Joseph Folan 22 days
Evelyn Barrett 4 months
Paul Morris 4 months
Peter Morris 4 months
Mary Martyna Joyce 18 months
Mary Margaret Lane 7 months

1952

John Noone 4 months
Anne J McDonnell 6 months
Joseph Anthony Burke 6 months
Patrick Hardiman 6 months
Patrick Naughton 12 days
Josephine T Staunton 21 days
John Joseph Mills 5 months

1953

Baby Hastings 1 day
Mary Donlon 4 months
Nora Connolly 15 months

1954

Anne Heneghan 3 months
Mary Keville 9 months
Martin Murphy 5 months
Mary Barbara Murphy 5 months
Mary P Logue 5 months
Margaret E Cooke 6 months
Mary Ann Broderick 14 months
Ann Marian Fahy 4 months
Anne Dillon 4 months
Imelda Halloran 2 years

1955

Joseph Gavin 10 months
Marian Brigid Mulryan 10 months
Mary C Rafferty 3 months
Nora Mary Howard 4 months
Joseph Dempsey 3 months
Patrick Walsh 3 weeks
Francis M Heaney 3 years

1956

Dermot Gavin 2 weeks
Mary C Burke 3 years
Patrick Burke 1 year
Paul Henry Nee 5 months
Oliver Reilly 4 months
Gerard Connaughton 11 months
Rose Marie Murphy 2 years

1957

Margaret Connaire 4 months
Stephen Noel Browne 2 years
Baby Fallon 4 days

1958

Geraldine O’Malley 6 months

1959

Dolores Conneely 7 months
Mary Maloney 4 months

1960

Mary Carty 5 months

Here are 8 ways the religious right wins conve…

Here are 8 ways the religious right wins converts – to atheism

By Valerie Tarico

If the Catholic Bishops, their Evangelical Protestant allies, and other Right-wing fundamentalists had the sole objective of decimating religious belief, they couldn’t be doing a better job of it.

Testimonials at sites like ExChristian.net show that people leave religion for a number of reasons, many of which religious leaders have very little control over. Sometimes, for example, people take one too many science classes. Sometimes they find their faith shattered by the suffering in the world – either because of a devastating injury or loss in their own lives or because they experience the realities of another person’s pain in a new way. Sometimes a believer gets intrigued by archaeology or symbology or the study of religion itself. Sometimes a believer simply picks up a copy of the Bible or Koran and discovers faith-shaking contradictions or immoralities there.

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When briefly discussing the abortion issue with a friend today, a glaring inconsistency in Christian thought became apparent. After an atheist confronts a Christian with the Problem of Evil, specifically the gratuitous amount of evil and suffering there is in the world, a Christian usually turns to the so-called free will defense. God gave humans free will, so it’s not his fault when a serial killer chooses to murder x amount of people. Setting aside that that doesn’t address evil and suffering that isn’t human-driven, an inconsistency becomes apparent if one opens discussions on other topics.

Take, for instance, abortion and euthanasia. Those on the side of choice will defend a woman’s right to choose and a person’s choice to die, but Christians very often oppose choice in these cases. They are basically going against god’s supposed decision to give us free will. They’re also forgetting a hallmark of their theology, namely humanity’s fall from grace. They are suddenly forgetting that humans are supposedly sinners and that they’ll often make choices that god finds reprehensible. Christians are essentially giving themselves an authority greater than the authority they themselves assign to god! God can’t do anything to overturn our free will; sure, he wants all men to be saved, but he can’t make you accept Christ. Christians, however, can force a woman to keep an unwanted pregnancy. Or they can force a terminally ill individual to continue leading a life they would much rather surrender. Perhaps this is because god is simply an idealization, a projection, an admission of their own basest cruelty and thirst to manipulate and control. God is made in man’s image.

This makes for a glaring inconsistency in the thought of most Christians. Abortion and euthanasia shouldn’t be vehemently opposed given the notion that we have free will, a will that isn’t even subordinate to god’s own will. Aside from being a glaring inconsistency, this showcases what Christianity is truly about: control. Christianity is a religion that has been jury-rigged for centuries with the primary goal being control over a person’s life: a person’s thoughts, actions, manner of speaking, and so on. Christians may act as though we have free will, but ultimately, Christians adhere to a religion that tells them what they can and cannot think, say, or do. In some denominations, the music you listen to, the way you dress, whether or not you can wear jewelry or get tattoos, and even who you can associate with are all determined by what the denomination deems acceptable.

The so-called liberal Christian might at this point chime in, but liberal Christianity is itself a modern invention borne out of sheer necessity, an attempt to secure a reversal of the religion’s demonstrable decline. That said, there are liberal Christians who are still vehemently opposed to choice as it concerns abortion and euthanasia. Ultimately, a Christian can’t conveniently recall free will when it benefits their argument and discard it when they want to maintain control over another person’s decisions or the manner in which an individual leads his/her life. Free will explains evil, but a woman can’t abort, a terminally ill individual can’t choose to die, and a homosexual can’t choose to love a partner of the same sex. Which is it? 

The free will defense is itself an attempt to control someone’s thinking. It is a way of pretending to solve a problem that simply is without a solution that is reconcilable to Christian theology. On naturalism, death, disease, and all manner of what we call evil are unfortunate occurrences explainable by a number of naturally occurring factors like natural disasters, genetic predispositions, neurophysical abnormalities or anomalies, and so on. On Christianity, part of the problem is explained by humanity’s god-given free will and in fact, because of the Fall, the very existence of evil is the fault of the first man. The pretense of a solution is merely a means to control the thinking of believers in doubt; that is essentially what apologetics is in a nutshell: the equivalent of alternative facts and fake news designed specifically to create a narrative capable of (perhaps) temporarily extinguishing doubt and retaining control over such believers. At bottom, Christianity is designed specifically to control people and Christians, who are themselves under this dogmatic control, try their darnedest to control the lives of others and even the decisions they make, and this is made apparent in their views on abortion and euthanasia.

If I am free to be an atheist because god can’t make me be a Christian, then women are free to choose and terminally ill individuals can make the choice to end their own lives. You have no say over that per your own beliefs. Will you admit that consistency is really your concern? Will you admit that your endgame is control over other people? 

Right, because free will means morality doesn’t exist and I’m not bound to the consequences of my actions, so contradictory. I guess the serial killer you mentioned earlier is also morally permitted to do whatever he pleases, because, of course, he’s got free will.

That’s the point though: you’ve not proven that there’s anything immoral about aborting an embryo or earth fetus. Most abortions happen before week 16 with the greater number of them happening before week 9. There are no EEG waves in the brain during the first trimester. That happens at around week 22, so the death of an embryo or early fetus isn’t equivalent to the death of a person because a person can suffer brain death. An embryo or early fetus can’t. By brain death, I am not speaking of comatose sort of brain death, which is more a misnomer as that is merely the loss of conscious awareness. I’m speaking of the loss of all brain activity. Embryos and fetuses can’t suffer the loss of all brain activity as they don’t have sufficiently developed brains in the first place. So there’s no equivalence to be had with murder and hence no violation of morality or law to be had when a woman chooses to have an abortion. You’re welcome to try again, but I see already you’re too inadequate a thinker to understand the level of nuance that’s involved in discussing an issue like abortion. The debate doesn’t matter anyway; if you really want to reduce the number of induced abortions there are from country to country, get off your behind, stop trying rebuke pro-choicers on tumblr, and get out there and do your part in reducing poverty, domestic violence, and the other factors that lead women to choose to have an abortion.

If you want to talk abortion, fine, I’ve got finals this week but I’m free thereafter, but my point was that there’s not an inconsistency between free will and moral responsibility; in fact, moral responsibility is predicated on free will, because one can’t act morally or immorally if there’s only one way to act, and if we have moral responsibility, then there is no inconsistency between free will and expecting society to maintain some level of moral behavior. You aren’t addressing my contention with your post at all, and your ad hominem makes you look like a pathetic Redditor complaining that no one understands Rick and Morty like you do (and yes, I do understand that that was also an ad hominem, I don’t care to respect you if you don’t respect me.)

But then you prove that my ad hominem is, in fact, of the non-fallacious sort. You say there’s no inconsistency between free will and moral responsibility, which I would grant if I held to the belief that we have free will, but miss the demonstrable fact that there’s nothing immoral about choosing to have an abortion. Moral responsibility simply doesn’t factor here because no persons are being harmed. So yes, I most certainly did address your post so you can try the old William Lane Craig “you didn’t address any of my arguments” bit, but that makes you look every bit the idiot I thought you were at the outset. Apparently I’m smart enough to get nuance; you clearly aren’t.

I don’t respect supposed philanthropists who equate feeding the homeless with alleviating poverty. As stated by another blogger, you need to invest in education and economic equality to do more on that front. So volunteering isn’t doing much; that’s all to make you feel like you’re doing something. In fact, your sort of thinking halts or stifles progress. Equating abortion with murder is absolutely dangerous and leads to the loss of women’s lives in many countries. Look at Northern Ireland, Brazil and the Philippines. You can’t restrict access to safe abortions because you think a person is being murdered; that’s not what’s happening at all, so the fact here is that you didn’t address anything I said and can’t, and whether after or during finals week, you have no case to make. What you ought to do is sit down and learn. I’ve weighed this issue for far longer than you have and my judgment isn’t clouded by outmoded religious dogma and bias.

Moving the goalposts, bud. You said, in your original post, that there is a fundamental inconsistency between a belief in free will as part of the answer to the problem of evil and the belief that it’s reasonable to try to stop what one believes to be a grievous evil. Perhaps I misunderstood, but that seemed to be the main point of your post, as that’s what you spent the most time discussing. I’m pointing out a glaring lack of understanding of nuance on your part of Christian thought, not making a moral claim about abortion. You are making this about whether abortion, specifically, is moral or not. I have given my response, adequately answered your claim that Christians have some nonexistent tension between the free will defense and a desire to stop what they see as evil, real or not, and you have not rebutted that, you’ve simply deflected to the issue of abortion. I’m not pulling a William Lane Craig, I made one point, one point only, and you did not even touch it. 

Let me make this clear, my point that your original post does not actually represent Christian philosophy. If you, you, want to make this an abortion debate, fine, but you still have not addressed my point, that there is no tension between the free will defense and a desire to stamp out WHAT ONE THINKS IS evil. You think poverty is evil, and I agree, and so you want to stamp it out, so do I, that’s great, we can debate the best ways in which to help the poor, but we both believe it to be evil, and want to stamp it out. Christians believe abortion to be a great evil, and likewise want to stamp it out. For the sake of my argument, it does not matter if they are right or wrong in this instance, what matters is that they are acting to fight a problem they see and to say that a belief in free will should prevent them from doing that is quite frankly nonsense.

No goalposts have been moved. Clearly, you straw manned what I said. For one, you don’t quote me directly. Secondly, it’s clear that you didn’t read my post in its entirety. It appears you read the first paragraph and thought you got the crux of my argument and made up your mind; you got offended and decided to add your two cents, which thus far amounts to nothing more than expired currency.

While I did mention the Problem of Evil, had you read the whole post, you would see that it’s not central to my point at all. My mention of it is merely to show how the free will defense is deployed, but also shows how important the belief in Libertarian free will is to a Christian. You then pretend as though abortion and euthanasia aren’t mentioned in the post; there’s no sense in which I deflected to abortion if the post you reblogged mentioned abortion prominently, specifically to show that your religion is about exerting control, and that (!) is actually the main thrust of my argument.

So yes, there’s a tension between your belief in free will and trying to control people’s decisions. If you can show that a decision is morally reprehensible, then your interference in someone’s choices is justifiable. The issue is that there’s nothing immoral about aborting an embryo or early fetus; this isn’t suddenly deflecting to abortion if the post in question mentioned it prominently. Perhaps you should learn to read material you disagree with rather than giving a knee-jerk, half-baked response because you saw a post you didn’t like on the Christianity tag.

And yes (!), I can certainly prevent Christians from trying to exert control over women’s bodies, especially men, which you more than likely are! You don’t get to say who stays pregnant and who doesn’t on the basis of what you “think” is evil or immoral. In fact, you don’t get to interfere in anyone’s decisions unless you can show that their decision would bring harm to the person him/herself or someone else. What you “think” is evil isn’t enough; you have to know the possible harm an act can cause before you decide to interfere in someone else’s affairs.

The fact remains: you cannot show that a fetus is a person, but if you actually want to persist in that belief, work to reduce induced abortions. The true and demonstrable evils are the cycle of poverty, lack of education and economic equality, domestic violence, restrictive abortion policies and extremist religion. The issue is that you’re employing outmoded thinking and targeting an “evil” of your own making, an evil that you’ve qualified from a biased religious perspective rather than on the basis of objective, tangible evidence. Your point has definitely been addressed because your retort is based on the illusion that there’s no tension to be had; it’s based on this patently nonsense conclusion that despite your belief in free will and the fact that even god himself doesn’t have the authority to prevent human-driven evil, you have the overriding authority to interfere in a woman’s decision over her own body because you “think” the act of abortion is evil. It’s not, plain and simple.

Ultimately, you are case in point! Your religion is about control. Look at you telling me that I can’t tell Christians not to exert control over women’s bodies. I will tell them the world over and sexists like you won’t silence me! You will receive no further reply because it’s clear you’re not listening. You’re trying to win a debate rather than have productive dialogue. Unfortunately, when you’re devoid of facts, you can’t formulate a good argument, let alone win a debate. Take the loss and move on because you’ve done nothing but prove my point: Christianity is most certainly about exerting control over people’s decisions and the way in which they lead their lives; it’s no wonder then that Christians try to influence legislation and have, in the past, imposed theocracies. This is commonplace in the US and I simply won’t stand for that.

“The main pillar of organized religion, with few exceptions, is the subjugation, repression, even the…”

“The main pillar of organized religion, with few exceptions, is the subjugation, repression, even the annulment of women in the group. Woman must accept the role of an ethereal, passive, and maternal presence, never of authority or independence, or she will have to suffer the consequences. She might have a place of honor in the symbolism, but not in the hierarchy. Religion and war are male pursuits. And anyhow, woman sometimes ends up becoming the accomplice in her own subjugation.”

Carlos Ruiz Zafón, The Angel’s Game